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     Friday, September 05, 2008
    Friday, September 05, 2008 6:58:45 AM (Eastern Standard Time, UTC-05:00) ( )

    Law #3 of the 48 Laws of Power

    Keep people off-balance and in the dark by never revealing the purpose behind your actions.  If they have no clue what you are up to, they cannot prepare a defense.  Guide them far enough down the wrong path, envelope them in enough smoke, and by the time they realize your intentions, it will be too late.

    http://www2.tech.purdue.edu/cg/Courses/cgt411/covey/48_laws_of_power.htm

     


    Question for the Week of September 5th, 2008

    Hey guru I’m sure you’ve already checked out Googles new browser but I’m wondering if you think it will hurt my seo by helping google track my sites. Does the incognito feature really work?

    Thanks

    Sammi

    You may be surprised Sam but I probably haven’t played with Chrome nearly as much as you might think. Still, I do have some comments based on my unique perspective.

    John Andrews is a very smart individual and a man I consider a friend. He has laser targeted his intellect at the seo community and is a controversial commentator on all  affairs seo. He is controversial because he possesses a clarity of vision, a command of language and a style that makes his offerings difficult to argue against, and this is extremely unique in a world filled with un-intitated, ill-informed, opinionated with no historical reference or record tidal wave of talking heads.

    You can read John's post regarding Google Chrome here at John Andrew's Killer blog but the pertinent take-away comes from this paragraph:
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    This morning my buddy Stefan sent me the gizmodo link that shows Google’s license for the Windows binary known as “Chrome”:

    you might want to take a closer peek at the end user license agreement you didn’t pay any attention to when downloading and installing it. Because according to what you agreed to, Google owns everything you publish and create while using Chrome.

    The offending text from the Google license includes:

    By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services…You confirm and warrant to Google that you have all the rights, power and authority necessary to grant the above license.

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    While this statement does not address things like track, record, identify, take action against, use to our specific benefit to control or restrict business opportunities of any third party, (which we know they already do with other features such as the toolbar), still, he has taken the time to identify the pieces of the Google Chrome license that exposes their possible, (and based on historical reference- likely), intentions.

    When you think about the license agreement, how else could a search engine phrase in legalese, the underlying purpose of any search facility. There is little to indicate nefarious intent when you consider that to display your url for a given search query, in over 100 countries using 100 languages, they kinda need your permission to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any content which you submit, post or display on or through the Services.

    Then throw in a little adsense with a dash of contextual flavoring and the stew begins to thicken. But, we've all had a laddle full of that brew already.

    That said, just because there is, or at least may be, some justrification for the typical Google vaguenesses, that does not alter the fact that you are also giving them permission to store, analyze, demote, label, penalize, ban, ridicule, give their opinion on or attmept to sway public perception in their favor and to the possible detriment to a third party's reputation or business if they so choose for whatevere reason they choose.

    Again ------




    SAME AS IT EVER WAS

    Like it or not, disagree with me or not,and in spite of all the blog posts to the contrary, seo's have given this exact same permission to every search engine there ever was from the first day they published online content and did not expressly forbid any search engine from taking that content with a no-follow/no-index.

    Be that as it may, I personally feel uncomfortable at raising a bet with all my cards laying face up on the table.  I realize there is really no cheap, easy way to NOT leave any footprints but that still doesn't mean I need to jump up and down naked while screaming look at me and hope nobody looks.

    My professional philosophy,(which changed dramatically after the 2002 lawsuit), is that as long as SK is in the business of placing websites at premium positions of the organic results of the Google search engine, or to promote any website online that touches the Google realm of influence on the net, (which is just about everything), Google is NOT our friend, they are our competitor.  

    Until such time as we as a company decide on a different direction, to use tools that exposes our internal intellectual property and gives a third party free reign to use it any way they choose without benefit of any legal restrictions or limitations is akin to cutting our own throats.

    As of today, I am making it official SK policy that no employee using SK property may access the internet to download Google Chrome. This may change at some point in the future but this policy shall stand until further notice. Furthermore, the same policy applies to Google Gmail and/or the Google toolbar.

    Now, that’s just me and over the next few posts I’ll give a few details of why I'd make a policy like that. The reasons are likely a little different than you’d expect. It certainly isn’t as obvious as it sounds.

    As for others, let me point out something  that I think is  important for those who consider themselves professional online promoters. This is taken from the cnet article here http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10032047-56.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-5

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    Because Chrome is open source, Eckersley suggested that one option would be for privacy-minded outsiders to create their own suggestion engine that sits on surfers' own PCs, offering some of the utility that Google provides, without having to send the data to its servers. He noted that Chrome, itself, already does this when a surfer uses Chrome in its more stealthy Incognito mode. In that case, all suggestions are based on a surfer's locally stored history.

    I bolded the pertinent part realizing that not everyone can dissect an open source app and modify but it just so happens that I have people on staff who can. If I can, so can others and this may be a viable alternative in much the same way as seoquake is for some things.

    As for the question, “does the incognito feature really work”, who knows outside of Google but if I was a betting man, I’d bet it works every bit as good as Google wants it to. Here is what Google said:

    Google told CNET News earlier Wednesday that it plans to store about 2 percent of the data it gets back, along with the IP address of the computer that sent it.

    The bolded part was to draw attention. The  bolded,  italicized, ENLARGED part was added for shudder effect.

    But as comforting as that sounds, here is what the Tech guy for Cnet said:

    "We are genuinely really worried about the Omnibox thing," he said. "It's just one more piece of the complete puzzle of Google seeing everything that everyone is doing."

    I’m the first to admit I’m paranoid but that doesn’t mean I’m not being watched.

    Keep in mind that I’m the guy who doesn’t believe there is any such thing as search engine spam. Here is what I said about spam back in 2001.

    There is no such thing as search engine spam!

    http://www.v7n.com/basic-concepts.php

    if you can agree that you or I can not manipulate search engine results without having access to the source code or at least an admin panel, then there can be no other conclusion but that search engines can not be spammed, tricked, mislead, bribed or coerced. All that can be done is build data that you believe best complies with what it is a specific program does with specific data and then give it that data. You can submit that data to a search service but from there, what that search engine program does with that data is beyond your control. You can control the data you provide but you can not control what the search engine does with that data once it has it. That alone eliminates the entire premise of spamming a search engine.

    Nothing has happened to change my opinion in the last 7 years.

    So to me, it is not an issue of doing anything right or wrong. It is an issue of privacy and having the right to operate my legal business as I see fit and with that right comes the right to also protect my own intellectual property rights as well as those of my clients who have entrusted those right to me.

    I would expect that Chrome, like a lot of Google products, offers a lot of features with good quality that you may find value in. A lot of the things they do makes a lot of things easier, faster and cheaper. BUT, with each one you can also see it comes at a price.  

    So I’m not telling you what to do, I’m only telling you how I see it and what I intend to do.

     

    Peace y’all

    G   

     

    My mother used to tell me that she married my father for his money and she was going to stay with him until he got some!

    But she got screwed.

                                                                        

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     Monday, August 25, 2008
    Monday, August 25, 2008 2:00:55 AM (Eastern Standard Time, UTC-05:00) ( )

            The real value to a professional SEO is not that they can get you on top. It's that they can KEEP you on top!



    I’m sure we’re all seeing strange behavior from the big G these days. Or maybe it’s just me.

    We’re used to seeing things like a general drop in positions for most of our target terms across the board. If our top tier stuff dropped, we could expect a drop in our second and third tier stuff as well. This could usually give us a general indication that our applied promotional techniques were working.

    We’ve always been able to target specific terms and move them faster but generally by applying the same basic procedures only more of them targeted to a more narrow field.

    For those less deeply submerged in the trenches of placement wars, I’ll put it another way less jargonish.

    If we could place top 10 for shoes, we could expect to see shoe laces, running shoes, tennis shoes, cheap shoes, etc. to start climbing the SERPs as well, as long as the supporting content was there. Then by following the same basic steps only altering anchor text of beefing up on-site content, we could move any of those second tier terms up while holding or even moving up a little for the most broad terms.   

    But the times they are a-changin.

    For the past 6 weeks or so, with over 65% of our total inventory we’re seeing something quite different. This naturally indicates some type of shift in the algorithm.

    Our first response to sudden changes in the SERPS is I’m sure we’re all seeing strange behavior from the big G these days. Or maybe it’s just me.

    We’re used to seeing things like a general drop in positions for most of our target terms across the board. If our top tier stuff dropped, we could expect a drop in our second and third tier stuff as well. This could usually give us a general indication that our applied promotional techniques were working.

    always to :

    #1. Don’t panic.

    We’ve seen shifts, movements, glitches and burps hundreds of times over the years and as long as everything is search engine guideline compliant,(which it is when we’re working for clients), the placements either return or it really was a shift in the algo and we adjust

    #2. Start setting up range of control data and test to help us identify specifics BEFORE we start altering procedures.

    This approach has served me well for a long, long time but the problem with outsourcing is that many of the clients panic even at minimum downward movements thinking that something we are doing may be getting the target site penalized. This puts extreme pressure on us to find answers, (and evidence), fast.

    So after 6 weeks of looking closely I’m VERY confident that what is changing has nothing to do with penalties. If shoes stays at #2, tennis shoes at #3 and cheap shoes at #2, BUT running shoes drops from #6 to # 11 We ARE NOT DEALING WITH PENALTIES. Especially not a site wide penalty even though the shift in algorithm that drops running shoes from #6 to #11 could be seen as a penalty of sorts in the sense that any drop does not indicate increased relevancy, rather less.   

    That said, I think it is important to point out that I get no consideration from Google or any other engine for that matter. What I report is purely conjecture based on experience and educated guesses. Only Google really knows what Google is doing and most days I question even that assumption.

    The best thing in my favor is that the vast majority, (if not all), of conclusions published online regarding placements or algorithms are pure opinion and conjecture. Some more educated guesses than others.

    But for my 12 year career what has always saved me is that I’ve been right far more often than I’ve been wrong. That, in my book, is kind of the definition of SEO success. So, while I apologize for the lapse in posting this month, I’m now ready to share my conclusions as I have seen enough to start altering procedures and that means I’m confident enough to pass on my opinion.  

    For those of you who know me,  you know I don’t post information frivolously. If I say it in public,  you know I believe it to be true or at least have enough validity that I feel comfortable discussing it. So, without further adieu-----


    Question for the Week of August 25th, 2008

    Bob

    Please can you comment on the drop in rankings we have experienced on XXX.com and XXXXX.com?

    Kind Regards

    Dave 

    ******      ******      ******

    First of all, we need to talk specifics because the changes I'm seeing are only with certain terms or pages for certain sites. So, when you say drop in rankings I need to know if they are ALL rankings or just specific terms.

    from looking at your stats you sent yesterday it looks to me like EXACTLY what we're seeing with about 60% of all our sites. that is, some placements are sticking and some are dropping BUT there is no discernible pattern.  Some keywords drop 2 or 3 spots while others drop 5 pages.

    What I believe it is, is Google slowly rolling out tweaks to an adjusted algo that has to do with an entirely new page rank system. This new system has to do with links having more weight from trusted sources than others and actually having VERY little to do with what the toolbar says AND the trustability of the content.

    For example, lets say there is a housewife in London who is married to a Barrister making 100,000 a year and has 3 kids. She spends about 9 hours a week online and the majority of that at two  forums. One is a parenting forum and the other is a sewing forum. She has used gmail for over two years, uses google to search and uses youtube a lot and runs a little site about sewing and a blog about her kids both with a toolbar PR of 2.

    let's say another person is an auto mechanic who lives in Dallas Texas and he spends about 10 hours a week mostly reading news and hanging out at sports forums. he's been online for about 6 years and watches a lot of porn. Spends about $50 a month on porn sites. Has a bunch of profiles on adult dating sites etc.

    for the housewife, if she links to something about parenting or sewing the link gets a trust score of say 25 pts (strictly for examples. I actually have no idea yet of what score for which link going where from whom) BUT if she links to a porn site, the link only gets a point score of say 2

    If the mechanic links to football site from a forum, that carries a trust score of 10. If he links to a porn site on a  porn chat room, that carries a trust point of 40 BUT if he links to a  barbecue site it carries a n 8 while he links to a sewing site and it carries a 2.

    See what I mean?

    this is why Techndu is moving into more of research to find the right people for which link and why I was telling you that it is so important to make it look to google like we are just webmasters trying to promote our site where we think it makes sense. Where we eventually hope to be is in the field of personality management where we would actually manage thousands of online personalities saying the right thing in the right places about the right sites according to our profiles and trust rank.

    I haven’t spent the time to check yet Dave but from a very brief glance I think with these two specific sites, they may be suffering from too much content too similar and not enough specific trusted links to support it.

    Now, if I'm right, (and I've been right a LOT more than I've been wrong over the last 11 years), then the answer to these two specific clients is to carefully examine the specific ranks that have dropped, look  closely at the content and make sure the page is not focusing on too many terms at once. Stay focused on a close set of themed terms and make sure that is reflected in titles, h tags, meta tags and content density. THEN make sure you have the 3 or 4 links that Paul mentioned on skype yesterday just make reasonably sure that they are trusted and you do that by picking things that come up in the top 200 for a term specific search, (that means the target is not penalized for that term),and then try to get the links manually NOT    AUTOMATED using varying anchor text so it is obvious we aren't using some kind of submitter

    also, I know that seo forums have preached the effectiveness of doorway pages for specific terms for years but the truth is search engines have gotten much, much smarter and now you face more problems from too many pages too similar for the same basic terms. Yesterday I said you were trying to do much with too little and this is what I was kind of trying to  imply in a nice way. When you have thin pages targeting gas barbecue, gas barbecues, gas bbq,and  cheap apartments tuscon, cheap apartments toledo, cheap apartments denver etc without having trusted links into each page, it looks like that is causing some problems.

    If I'm wrong, you can see it in the placements that have not dropped. You said yesterday that only the sites we are working on are dropping. you need to verify that and make SURE that you are not seeing similar patterns of varying degrees on other sites as well.

    The good thing is that it's easy to test and google is indexing so fast it doesn't take long to see results. My advice is to focus on just a few pages at a time and instruct Amish to target local directories and topic specific niche directories/blogs and forums. as the target pages get a few links to them make sure those pages link to the similar pages with anchor text links. In other words, focus on getting local links into the gas bbq page but then provide links to the other gas barbecue pages from that page and try to start thinking of themes instead of each page. Try to get 3-10 trusted links into the main theme page and then link that to related theme pages.

    It's a lot of work but it's not that tough to test it out and like I said you'll see the results pretty quick

    Also, I should mention that we are seeing sites pop back in right where they were as whatever changes get made propagate through to the other data centers AND the bottom line is, it's not as complicated as I make it sound. If you look at the placements that have remained and the ones that have dropped and then compare the number and quality of links for the ones that stuck to the ones that didn't you quickly see a pattern. It's really the same as it's ever been. better content -- more links and everything they change something, don't start making a lot of drastic changes until you KNOW exactly what changed. In the meantime, better content --- more links

    The SEO Guru

     

    So what do you think? Does it make as much sense to you as it does to me?

     

    Peace Y’all

    G

     

    Stop throwing that ball against the house Damnit! You’re drivin me outta my mind!

     

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