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     Thursday, December 20, 2007
    Thursday, December 20, 2007 2:52:16 PM (Eastern Standard Time, UTC-05:00) ( )

    To finish up the two part series on content hosting, http://massa.techndu.com/2007/12/17/CONTENTHOSTINGTheGoodTheBadAndTheUglyPartUno.aspx I’m going to tell you how I see the benefits and drawbacks of third party content hosting from 3 unique perspectives. The hoster, (the person putting up your content into their domain), the hostee, (the person providing the content), and the search engine spidering the hosted content.

    There is also a fourth party involved and that would be the visitor or reader of the content. But for the purpose of this post, that relationship, (while ALWAYS the most important reason for creating content regardless of where it gets published), is not relevant.

    Definition: What is Content Hosting?

    You’re likely familiar with the concept even if not the term.  Content hosting has been discussed several times over the last several years, although not nearly as often as other types of linking.  I first openly discussed it in June of 04 http://forums.searchenginewatch.com/showthread.php?t=530.  Bear in mind there have been some algorithmic developments since then, especially with anchor text, but the concept has changed little in almost 5 years.

    You may have been exposed to the concept but associated it with other terms such as pre-sell pages, advertorials, content pages, interactive PR,  or about a dozen other creative terms. I prefer content hosting.

    CONTENT HOSTING, is the act of placing text provided by a third party on a new page with a unique url  into your domain and providing an interior link to the new page by virtue of some type of transaction or agreement .

    EXAMPLE:

    Advertiser A offers to pay,( or reciprocate or trade),  webmaster B to place A’s text into B’s domain. A will provide B with an agreed amount of text, (usually 150 to 250 words), which will contain 3-5 embedded text links to a target url chosen by A.

    B creates a new url, (usually with target keyword as part of the url such as www.thirdpartydomain.com/targetkeyword.html), using the template that he would use to place any other type of page into his domain to maintain a consistent and professional look , including nav links, adsense, graphical ads,  headers, footers, etc., and uploads it to www.thirpartydomain.com. B then places a link to  www.thirdpartydomain.com/targetkeyword.html from either the index page of thirdpartydomain.com or an interior page no more than one level deep.


    The Buyer

    The Good:

    By virtue of the possible trust of this domain and depending on the supporting theme of the domain compared to the content , this page could place and start generating qualified traffic sent directly to you in a matter of hours to days!

    Typically, this type of linking passes page rank as one would expect.

    This type of linking has shown to generate more qualified traffic than traditional text links.

    Intent doesn’t come into question nearly as much as traditional text links

    Concern over competitors indentifying your linking partners is greatly reduced

    Gives you control over not only anchor text but more importantly the message you want delivered with that anchor text

    Get multiple links for one price

    Gain the reputation brownie points from an established domain

    Easier to spider and track than traditional text links

    The Bad:

    The webmastering community is not as familiar with the concept or terminology as with traditional text links and that makes it difficult to explain. It can get frustrating.

    More difficult to set up correctly in the beginning due to the above

    Unlike text links where you can write one 5 or 10 word ad with the same anchor text and be done, with content hosting, each page needs to be unique to avoid duplicate content issues

    You only control the text part of the page and not the layout or design

    You don’t control the source of the page, (unless agreed upon beforehand but my experience is this is a problem), so the title tag, meta description, h tags etc, may not be what you would choose.

    You must respect the integrity of the hosting domain

    The Ugly:

    If you break the agreement, (stop paying), the content you provided is now generating the traffic you REALLY want but the webmaster is no longer sending it to you. This is really no different than if you had a deal for a text link and broke the deal except that text links don’t generate placements, but pages do. My experience has been that when you pay for hosted content and then the webmaster re-directs the links that used to go to you to his own affiliate program, it’s a big pill to have to swallow.

     

    The Seller

    The Good:

    Low- risk, (relatively speaking),  stable revenue

    High profit margin recurring income. You can make money for months and even years for about 10 minutes of work.

    Content provided for you and get paid to take it!

    Placements going directly to YOUR domain generated by THEIR content. You keep these placements even if the buyer cancels.

    Any inbound links generated by this hosted content increases the visibility of YOUR domain

    You decide what , where and how the content gets displayed. After all, it is YOUR domain

    You display your adsense, your banner ads, your header, footer, nav bar and you didn’t have to write any original content yourself. It’s almost like getting paid to make more money.

     

    The Bad:

    You have to deal with other people trying to tell you how to add content to your site. They can be a little demanding.

    You have to deal with the sales and customer service aspect even though you are always in control.

    You will likely be expected to provide stats of at least page views.

    The Ugly:

    There is a risk of varying degrees because at the end of the day, content hosting is still, arguably, very similar to paid links. While intent is much more difficult to ascertain by any third party, patterns do emerge and you should be diligent enough to at least periodically check that duplicate content isn’t being added to other domains.


    The Search Engine

    There really isn’t a good, bad or ugly for the search engine. It is simply another web document that needs to be dealt with. Since there are those who will attempt to use this technique for the sole purpose of increasing their page rank, and lean towards this type of process because of it’s more difficult to identify intent nature, we can expect as much controversy to swirl around this topic at some point as we have seen with the paid links issue. In fact, the more popular this technique becomes, (and it’s popularity WILL increase because it works), the more discussion we will see.

    I would fully expect the stance of the engines to be very much the same as the stance with paid text links. FUD spread directly relative to the amount of public discussion.

     If there is any upside for the engine, (and the buyer and seller to a large degree), it would lie in the Don’t  Make Google Look Stupid concept I referenced  in my last post. A video by Shoemoney illustrates the concept perfectly.

    Shoemoney’s don’t make Google look stupid video

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOBcXEja_dM

    With the intent of the hosted content being much more difficult to identify, the outings with complete certainty will be less likely. And of course easier to defend even if it is outed.  As long as a content hosted page is not shoved in the face of an engine as being obvious, it does not force them to take some kind of action to not look stupid or appear not in control as much as they would like the public to believe. This at least increases the chance of longevity and decreases the risk of penalty.

     

    The Key to Making it Work

    Respect.  Respect for the hosting webmaster and his site, respect for the search engines and above all respect for the people who would be reading the content.

    If you try to shove as much unrelated crap as you can as fast as you can into as many domains as will take your $50, then the benefit content hosting can offer will be short-lived indeed.

    But if you provide quality original content with links to content that can further the sales process, choose only domains that offer related, makes- good –sense themed topics, and do it in a way that does not make the engines look stupid, this technique can offer a stable and superior reward vs risk ratio.

     

    Peace Y‘all

    G

     

    now get outside and play but if you mess up them new shoes, I’ll make you wish you hadn’t!