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     Wednesday, April 09, 2008
    Wednesday, April 09, 2008 12:39:11 AM (Eastern Standard Time, UTC-05:00) ( )

    I've mentioned before how I find it strange that I get more questions by email than by comments on the Ask the SEO Guru blog but at the end of the day, I'm just glad to be getting asked anything by anybody from anywhere.

    I recommend that you never be afraid to ask anything from anyone if you're sincere. Most people are flattered that you respect them enough to ask their advice or opinion and if you've read anything from the Guru's blog you already know how I feel about flattery.

    When asking for something you want from someone else, always appeal to their own self-interest and never to their mercy or gratitude.

    Well, today I got an email from someone who was sincere and the Guru was flattered that he had a question he thought I could help with. After replying and answering his question it occured to me that there are probably a lot of other people who may have the same type of question. And it is the kind of question that you would have a difficult time finding answers for in a search so I think it's important that someone post this kind of info.

    It doesn't have to be very good to be the best when  you're the only one. THAT is the secret behind the value proposition of unique content.

    So today I'm going to post the email exchange in the hopes that it helps more than just the person asking me specifically. I'll remove names to protect the guilty. The Guru's responses are in bold.

    {note: The reference to The Google Story comes from this blog post http://massa.techndu.com/2008/03/17/TheGoogleStory.aspx}

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    Hey Guru


    I've enjoyed reading The Google Story - it was a real good recommendation. Are there others that you would recommend that might help to understand the industry and help me to get better at this stuff?

    The Cluetrain Manifesto --- by 4 guys I don't remember their names right now
    Don't Make Me Think -- by Steve Krug
    The Purple Cow ---- by Seth godin
    The Tipping Point ---- by Malcolm Gladwell
    The Long Tail --by Chris Anderson
    Marketing Warfare by Jack Trout and Al Ries

    Also Guru, I was wondering if you had any recommendations with regard to how to start a SEO business... I've considered starting a big PPC push with little campaign on AdCenter, Yahoo, and AdWords to try to get a few leads and hopefully develop a couple decent sized PPC clients - I figure if I can get a couple good PPC clients then in time I can upsell them to SEO services. Hell, maybe I should be trying to sell them SEO first... I dunno. I sure know that if I can get a couple of decent clients then it could mean some more work for you guys too.

    I can tell you how I did it in 5 easy steps! (except for the RSS stuff. they didn't have that stuff when I started out. in fact when I started out we had to walk to the library to use a computer and it was uphill all the way. BOTH WAYS!)
    #1. Start a blog, always tell the truth and always talk about things that you know really do help people less experienced than youself

    #2. Go to google and do a search for SEO _blogs, set up a rss reader and start commenting on the most popular, well read blogs on the planet. ALWAYS suck up to the owner of the blog and ALWAYS try to offer better, more useful comments , (that doesn't overshadow the blog owner), than  all the other posters.

    #3. Do the same search for seo+ forum and start contributing, (not spamming), the biggest forums and social sites. ALWAYS add value to the forum and NEVER put your personal agenda above that.

    #4. ALWAYS try your best to be helpful and NEVER bullsh** anyone. It's the internet and whatever you say haunts you forever. become known for honesty and not for trying to steal clients by trying to "look" honest. Be honest

    #5. Follow the DO philosophy

    do the best job you can do
    be proud of what you do
    do what you say you will do

    and charge accordingly

    You do those things and it will build your SEO business quicker and for a LOT less money than  PPC

    Well I figure I've probably bent your ear enough tonight.
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    Now you may be thinking "but that would take too long Guru". Well, the truth is it doesn't really. The more you contribute the faster it comes. That is the law of the

    Internet Golden Rule

    THE MORE YOU GIVE THE MORE YOU GET

    There is nothing wrong with PPC and as far as how long putting my advice into action would take to actually start getting paying clients, well, there are a LOT of variables but there are variables with PPC as well. One thing with PPC that is NOT a variable is that it WILL be an expense. So I'm not telling you what to do as much as I'm telling you how I did it.

    good luck

    Peace Y'all

    G




    now go get your good clothes on and get ready for sunday school. AND YOU BETTER NOT GET 'EM DIRTY EITHER!



    Wednesday, April 09, 2008 9:19:42 AM (Eastern Standard Time, UTC-05:00)
    I always read your posts with interest, Bob, and this is one of the best. The Internet is great for making connections. You've covered the bases well here. Perhaps Twitter may be another that helps to get your visibility up.
    Wednesday, April 09, 2008 10:31:50 AM (Eastern Standard Time, UTC-05:00)
    Thanks so much for the input Barry. I'm REALLY glad you and this interest person read my blog!

    Of course you're right. Twitter is great and I hope others may also feel
    compelled to add to the list for the benefit of all humans.

    Oh yeah, and seo's too.


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    Wednesday, April 09, 2008 12:11:09 PM (Eastern Standard Time, UTC-05:00)
    Yo Guru, I always read your blog - good stuff. May I add that a good way to get started is to find
    a PR Agency or Ad Agency in your town that would like to expand their services and offer them to
    white label yours. You better have a good idea of your costs and what you need to profit if you do.
    Wednesday, April 09, 2008 12:32:20 PM (Eastern Standard Time, UTC-05:00)
    Do you have any personal experience you could share Joe? Great suggestion.
    You have a really nice site BTW. Very nice!

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    Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:33:14 PM (Eastern Standard Time, UTC-05:00)
    Great Post, I've just start to offer SEO services in Mexico, and I understand the power of make connections and participate in forums and blogs, and I have a question about start up your own SEO business.

    Is there a SEO guide or standard about the services that you should have to offer to your clients?

    To start as SEO you must have passion to read and learn but above all patience.

    Thanks for sharing this history with us, and from now you have a reader from Mexico.

    Regards.
    Friday, April 11, 2008 12:14:33 AM (Eastern Standard Time, UTC-05:00)
    Ola! Bienvenidos a mi blog

    >Is there a SEO guide or standard about the services that you should have to offer to your clients? <

    Not that I know of :( Hopefully someone will stop in and shed a little light on that particular question, but
    I don't recall seeing anything myself.

    What I can tell you is that offering first page placements pull clients in but conversions keep them paying. If
    you read the Ask the SEO Guru past posts, I tell you EXACLTY how to get search engine placements without having
    anymore than an honest streak a mile long and willingness to roll up your sleeves and actually do the work.

    The first page placements are actually the easy part. Learning to convert the traffic those placements generate
    is the difficult part. Spend about 10% of your time learning about placement and 90% of your time learning about
    things like feature/benefit/call to action, value propositions/ and tracking a visitor through the site.

    Remember, ANYONE can buy traffic pretty cheap but people who can actually convert that traffic is where the REAL
    value is.
    G
    Friday, April 11, 2008 10:44:33 PM (Eastern Standard Time, UTC-05:00)
    Hello Guru

    I just found your blog via Alltop and I'm glad i did. Excellent advice on how to start an SEO business. I've been practicing SEO on my own sites for about 10 years now and I always manage to achieve top 10 rankings for my core business offerings. With this type of success I've decided to branch out into SEO services.

    Now armed with your well thought out advice I feel confident in this decision.

    Thanks Guru!! I'll be back many times.

    Mike Allan
    seo-blog.videozine.ca
    Friday, April 11, 2008 11:09:01 PM (Eastern Standard Time, UTC-05:00)
    >I just found your blog via Alltop and I'm glad i did.<

    I'm glad you did too Mike.

    >Now armed with your well thought out advice I feel confident in this decision.<

    Best of luck and you're welcome to come back and ask any question you like regarding sales, dealing with clients, value propositions, listening for closing questions and just about anything else to do with growing a client based seo service. Looks like you don't need much Guru help for getting placements! :)


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